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additional to 140 in the last two years, and my constituents look at this spending and our trillion dollar deficit, they want to know where all the money goes, not just over a million dollars, and this amendment would take one step to providing transparency and accountability. so i ask this committee add the amendment, and i'd also file two amendments that would have needed waivers. these seek to ensure that local governments are not violating the second amendment right office law abiding citizens. and then number 60 would require certification by the secretary of homeland security that no recipients were receiving funds if they were agent acting actinn contravention to the law preventing gun con confiscation. when guns were improperly confiscated after hurricane katrina, congress passed a law to prevent this from happening in the future. in the state legislature in kansas, i led the effort to pass similar legislation. i have submitted revised amend 68 that would ensure that no funds are used under this bill in violation of the second amendment rights following katrina. my office cleared this lang
additional to 140 in the last two years, and my constituents look at this spending and our trillion dollar deficit, they want to know where all the money goes, not just over a million dollars, and this amendment would take one step to providing transparency and accountability. so i ask this committee add the amendment, and i'd also file two amendments that would have needed waivers. these seek to ensure that local governments are not violating the second amendment right office law abiding...
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and reduce our deficit. then he went on to say on february 15 at the budget committee hearing -- quote -- "-- i think this was my question, was this accurate statement that you made, mr. mr. onchltd m.b. director. he said "it's an accurate statement that our current spending will not increase the debt. we've stopped spending money we don't have." i mean i almost can't read those words without the hair standing up on the back of my neck. the director of the office of management and budget appeared before the united states senate budget committee and he said it's an accurate statement, this, baloney, is an accurate statement that our current spending will not be increasing the debt, we've stopped spending money we don't have. nothing could be further -- the lowest single deficit was $600 billion. what about on a different cnn interview on february 14, -- quote -- "it, the budget, takes real actions now so that between now and five years from now we can get our deficit under control so that we can stabilize thi
and reduce our deficit. then he went on to say on february 15 at the budget committee hearing -- quote -- "-- i think this was my question, was this accurate statement that you made, mr. mr. onchltd m.b. director. he said "it's an accurate statement that our current spending will not increase the debt. we've stopped spending money we don't have." i mean i almost can't read those words without the hair standing up on the back of my neck. the director of the office of management...
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would surplus at sometimes but ordinarily deficits were small and manageable. what's different today we're not necessarily talking about funding or not borrowing for disaster, we're borrowing for everything else and that puts us in this new and frankly uncomfortable position. if we had taken care of our underlying financial and fiscal needs and paid for the operation of this government without borrowing huge sums of money we wouldn't have to have this conversation. we've undermined our own ability for our own people. imagine the united states of america being in the circumstance it is today we have to ask other countries to lend us money so we can take care of our own. that's an embarrassment to me. i'm not happy to be in this position. it's not because of what happened in sandy, it's because of what happened before we got to sandy. >> congressman mick mulvaney nice to talk to you. makes an excellent point at the same time. if you are a person affected by sandy many folks in our state of new jersey you hear that, this is closing the barn door after the horse ha
would surplus at sometimes but ordinarily deficits were small and manageable. what's different today we're not necessarily talking about funding or not borrowing for disaster, we're borrowing for everything else and that puts us in this new and frankly uncomfortable position. if we had taken care of our underlying financial and fiscal needs and paid for the operation of this government without borrowing huge sums of money we wouldn't have to have this conversation. we've undermined our own...
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deficit now exceeds 100% of debt gdp ratio. so we may be experiencing the initial tax of extended deficit financing. the longer-term problem is to a very large extent a product of key entitlement programs that are an important part of the nation's safety net for the elderly. the growth of spending in the nation's entitlement programs can help a program secure for current and future workers than we think that's very important. by 2035, there will be only two workers per beneficiary to 60 federal retiree who have 50% longer retirement than encouraging 1895. so this is a serious issue. currently the social security retirement is a pay-as-you-go system that provides for and no benefits and tax collects. this will lead to insolvency, particularly with the increasing number of baby boomers retiring every day is referred to by maia and lewis. others news, nor do i have the program make expertise necessary to suggest solutions, it's important that congress and allies acceptable methods to assure that these programs to retirees. reforms
deficit now exceeds 100% of debt gdp ratio. so we may be experiencing the initial tax of extended deficit financing. the longer-term problem is to a very large extent a product of key entitlement programs that are an important part of the nation's safety net for the elderly. the growth of spending in the nation's entitlement programs can help a program secure for current and future workers than we think that's very important. by 2035, there will be only two workers per beneficiary to 60 federal...
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it does not create new deficits. it does not create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family which is trying to improve its credit ratings and i know how we can save money, we will not pay our credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. it was a very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 that got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very important. all these issues are important, but it's very, very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where our government does not pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in the deal. it went part of the way, as you mentioned. but it leaves a number of issues still on the table and traditional negotiations are looming. would you characterize that as an additional cliff that is facing us? or do you think it is not as concerning as it was when you raised the term initially? >> as i said, the fiscal cliff, if al
it does not create new deficits. it does not create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family which is trying to improve its credit ratings and i know how we can save money, we will not pay our credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. it was a very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 that got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very important. all these issues are important, but it's very, very important that...
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when we're spending our time here talking about the deficit stuff and raising the deficit we are simply saying to the world, for the first time america is not going pay its debts. my question to you, mr. johnson is this, if this was such a good idea, why haven't we done it before? we could have saved a lot of money by not paying our debts. why did we suddenly decide this the s the time to do it? give me the understanding so the american people can understand after all of these years under the first world war i voted under president bush, both of them to raise the debt limit. but now we're going to stop paying. please tell me why they're doing this? >> congressman, it's not a good idea and it was not the way policy was run. go back to 1789, after the restructuring of debt which alexander hamilton began fiscal government in this country. it took a long time to convince the world that the u.s. was the safest place to put your reserve assets or your rainy day money. it was a great achievement but now it is being thrown away for what i presume some negotiating purposes which makes no sense.
when we're spending our time here talking about the deficit stuff and raising the deficit we are simply saying to the world, for the first time america is not going pay its debts. my question to you, mr. johnson is this, if this was such a good idea, why haven't we done it before? we could have saved a lot of money by not paying our debts. why did we suddenly decide this the s the time to do it? give me the understanding so the american people can understand after all of these years under the...
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the problem is that was the last deficit increase. the $1.2 trillion is sort of already in the bank. the credit agencies, by the way, assume we're going to make those cuts. so if you're suggesting that we do additional sequestration on the smaller part of the budget, the 38% we talked about, domestic discretionary, i suppose that's one way you could go. but, it ignores the fact that we've got this bigger part of the budget that's more politically sensitive, but has to be dealt with. the biggest part of the budget and the fastest growing part of the budget. it also, the $1.2 trillion is in the bank because of the discussions we had two years ago. >> you think the democrats would not see that as a credible threat? they would say go ahead, let the sequestration kick in? >> well, i think democrats and republicans alike would like to alter the way the sequestration works. but i hope that nobody's talking about not making good on our commitment to reach the $1.2 trillion. i'm certainly not. and those of us who are concerned on the across-th
the problem is that was the last deficit increase. the $1.2 trillion is sort of already in the bank. the credit agencies, by the way, assume we're going to make those cuts. so if you're suggesting that we do additional sequestration on the smaller part of the budget, the 38% we talked about, domestic discretionary, i suppose that's one way you could go. but, it ignores the fact that we've got this bigger part of the budget that's more politically sensitive, but has to be dealt with. the biggest...
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there's room within the tax cut for us to reduce the deficit and still protect the middle class and promote growth. [inaudible] >> we believe strongly that this is the way. senator schumer said clearly the civic tree for the president. there's no one of the brinksmanship and that's way more than one occasion to my remarks it's how we feel. [inaudible] >> anything we do will be based on a budget. we do think separate and apart from now, but the framework for moving forward is the budget senator murray has indicated she will move forward with. >> can you be more specific -- [inaudible] >> senator durbin correctly said it's always been republican mantra. close the loopholes and use this mayonnaise. rethink some of those should be used for revenues. so did simpson/bowles. as the discussions have been about. we haven't changed our position and i hope they have a change to various. that will be up to the budget committee and the finance committee will discuss that. i [inaudible] >> say that again. senator murray, we talked about that on the way over here. >> as i just said, we're going to put out
there's room within the tax cut for us to reduce the deficit and still protect the middle class and promote growth. [inaudible] >> we believe strongly that this is the way. senator schumer said clearly the civic tree for the president. there's no one of the brinksmanship and that's way more than one occasion to my remarks it's how we feel. [inaudible] >> anything we do will be based on a budget. we do think separate and apart from now, but the framework for moving forward is the...
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the deficit. so it should not be surprising, given all the talk, the it the american people think washington is hurting rather than helping the country at the moment. they see their representatives concerned over paying the bills while they overwhelmingly want to focus on growing the economy and creating more jobs. so let's finish this debate and give it businesses and the world the certainty our economy and reputation are still second to none of. we pay our bills. we handle our business, and then we can move on, because america has a lot to do. we have to create more jobs, boost the wages of those that have worked and reached for energy independence, reformed immigration system. we have to give our children the best education possible and do everything we can to protect them from the horrors of gun violence. i am grateful to vice president biden for his work on this issue of gun violence and for his proposals, which i will review later today and address in the next few days and intend to vigorous
the deficit. so it should not be surprising, given all the talk, the it the american people think washington is hurting rather than helping the country at the moment. they see their representatives concerned over paying the bills while they overwhelmingly want to focus on growing the economy and creating more jobs. so let's finish this debate and give it businesses and the world the certainty our economy and reputation are still second to none of. we pay our bills. we handle our business, and...
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era which is deficit and debt. until we fix that problem we cannot leave behind for our children we cannot leave behind the kind of america that our parents left behind for months. >> 1064 days since democrats brought a budget to the senate floor. many of her colleagues don't even remember going through the budget committee. our national debt now exceeds $16.4 trillion, $52,000 for every man and woman and child in america, demonstrates the failure of that policy. if you could call it that. i want to congratulate the house for correcting people's attention to bring a budget to the floor, and i think the appropriate sanction is no budget and no pay. that is just me talking, but i believe that that is a good message. everybody in america understands the importance of passing and having a budget and family, and small business, and they understand that is one of the causes or contributes to the federal government spending money it doesn't have, borrowing $40 for that. >> we look forward to having a vigorous debate over
era which is deficit and debt. until we fix that problem we cannot leave behind for our children we cannot leave behind the kind of america that our parents left behind for months. >> 1064 days since democrats brought a budget to the senate floor. many of her colleagues don't even remember going through the budget committee. our national debt now exceeds $16.4 trillion, $52,000 for every man and woman and child in america, demonstrates the failure of that policy. if you could call it...
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it will reduce the deficit. obama care has brought the number of uninsured americans to the lowest level since 2008. however, the law would be fully implemented until 2014. it would put pressure on all insurers to lower their premiums in order to compete. it would also provide immediate relief to small businesses and the federal government and all parts of the economy. for example, former defense secretary robert gates has warned the rising -- he has warned of rising military health care costs for years. >> sharply rising health care costs are consuming an ever-larger share of this department. growing from 19 billion in 2001. >> military health care costs have gone up 300% in the past decade. 2012 was the first year since 1995 military personnel saw an increase in health care premiums. now, there are two things republicans love, the military and reducing the deficit. republican should be thrilled with the public option. how can you make a hundred billion dollar mistake? who's doing the math? will it save or won'
it will reduce the deficit. obama care has brought the number of uninsured americans to the lowest level since 2008. however, the law would be fully implemented until 2014. it would put pressure on all insurers to lower their premiums in order to compete. it would also provide immediate relief to small businesses and the federal government and all parts of the economy. for example, former defense secretary robert gates has warned the rising -- he has warned of rising military health care costs...
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in the abbe sense of medium term deficit reduction plan consistent with sustaining the economic recovery and restoring confidence in the long run, sustainability of the u.s. publicbe finances the current negative outlook on triple-a rating is likely to be resolved with a downgrade later this year. even if another debt ceiling crisis is averted. steve? >> of course it is. we are added to the debt at unprecedented pace. of course, the agencies that exist to provide ratings on our debt are going to tell us that we will be downgraded. you have to have a discussion in the broader context. this is why the things are different when you talk about $17 billion in this particular mulvaney amendment. it is not a ton of number. in the context of $1.2 trillion debt. but you to have the discussions about the $17 billion. it's not out of line to suggest that a 1.6%be off-set is reasonable. >> bret: i will say one thing aboutbe the debt ceiling debate quickly. president obama yesterday and then jay carney back in 2011 two different takes but the same message. >> congressional republicans refuse to pay a
in the abbe sense of medium term deficit reduction plan consistent with sustaining the economic recovery and restoring confidence in the long run, sustainability of the u.s. publicbe finances the current negative outlook on triple-a rating is likely to be resolved with a downgrade later this year. even if another debt ceiling crisis is averted. steve? >> of course it is. we are added to the debt at unprecedented pace. of course, the agencies that exist to provide ratings on our debt are...
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down and would pay down the deficit. guest: i like the point you are making. a very close friend of mind in scranton is a jeep dealer. and he was going to sell a cherokee in beijing, it costs about $100,000 which is outrageous. they add all sorts of import and do the fees and that just will not happen here. we need to rethink some of these trade imbalances. for example, of the note to the big box retailer and you can see the big box retailers and the countries that do not have strict labor laws, workplace safety laws, environmental regulations to protect, in a sensible fashion, the economy. foreign countries can sell them cheaper the in this country and i think that applies to automobiles as well. maybe the way to have these sensible regulations is to have a sensible tax along the line you are talking about. host: we are talking with freshman democrat from pennsylvania, rep cartwright. next caller. caller: the definition of the fault is not being able to pay your bills. -- the definition of default is not being able to p
down and would pay down the deficit. guest: i like the point you are making. a very close friend of mind in scranton is a jeep dealer. and he was going to sell a cherokee in beijing, it costs about $100,000 which is outrageous. they add all sorts of import and do the fees and that just will not happen here. we need to rethink some of these trade imbalances. for example, of the note to the big box retailer and you can see the big box retailers and the countries that do not have strict labor...
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we're running trillion dollar deficits. and for what would be the fifth straight year and the reality is s&p is downgraded us. they have sent the downgrade possibility sent notice. and we're still acting as if it's still 1995 or 2000 where we aren't running trillion dollar deficits. and but -- i hope it's not the case, but if in the meantime with all of these games as we move around the messaging and try to figure out resequencing and everything. if moon anies follows through the threat that america is not a credit rating -- worthy of aaa credit rating. that's the serious reality. you have the political reality and the economic real fip i hope it doesn't happen. i don't know how long question continue 0 to go on. i don't think we have ten years to actually somehow find a path to balance. i think we need move more quickly. but originally i was asked the question i think rob is there a 10-year balance budget proposal in there? i don't know the answer to that. i'm not for sure. we don't have the numbers from the cbo. i think o
we're running trillion dollar deficits. and for what would be the fifth straight year and the reality is s&p is downgraded us. they have sent the downgrade possibility sent notice. and we're still acting as if it's still 1995 or 2000 where we aren't running trillion dollar deficits. and but -- i hope it's not the case, but if in the meantime with all of these games as we move around the messaging and try to figure out resequencing and everything. if moon anies follows through the threat...
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it doesn't create new deficits. it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family, which is trying to improve its credit rating sank i know how we can save money, we won't pay off credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. it was the very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august 2011 i got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very, very important that all these issues are important but it's very, very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where our government doesn't pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in the deal. as you mention it certainly went part way but it leaves another the issues still on the table, and additional negotiations and are looking. would you characterize that as an additional clip that is facing us, or do you think that it's not as concerning as it was when you raised that term initially? >> as i said, the fiscal cli
it doesn't create new deficits. it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family, which is trying to improve its credit rating sank i know how we can save money, we won't pay off credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. it was the very slow solution to the debt ceiling in august 2011 i got the u.s. downgraded last time. so it's very, very important that all these issues are important but it's very, very important that...
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we have a training deficit in this country. we need to combine training programs and do a better job. are we going to hurt that effort? that's what's at stake here when the republicans say, just cut regardless. they had no reason to remember yesterday to cut all discretionary notary public defense discretionary programs, and i think sadly a hundred and some republicans, i think, 50 voted for willie-nilly across the board. doesn't matter what it is. that's not the way we proceed. >> host: was this the amendment to the sandy relief bill? >> guest: it was. >> host: and it failed, 70 republicans joined about 188 democrats to beat back that amendment put forth. on the tax side of the ledger, deductions and loopholes is what folks are talking about. when you say "balanced approach qtle, spending cuts, and deductions and loopholes and things like that. what are the big ones that would bring in the most revenue? >> guest: well, we've talked about the itemized deductions and they include mortgage interests, charitable contributions, ect
we have a training deficit in this country. we need to combine training programs and do a better job. are we going to hurt that effort? that's what's at stake here when the republicans say, just cut regardless. they had no reason to remember yesterday to cut all discretionary notary public defense discretionary programs, and i think sadly a hundred and some republicans, i think, 50 voted for willie-nilly across the board. doesn't matter what it is. that's not the way we proceed. >> host:...
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fiscal cliff, deficit, every single issue. the president's bills never go on the floor of the senate. there are bills that mcconnell agrees to before they reach the floor. because otherwise they can't proceed. one of these reforms that senator merkley talked about is just no more motion to proceed. the majority leader can put a bill on the floor. this is out of control. >> now, let me show you your union's advertising campaign against the filibuster. and let me just show you that first. then i want to ask a question. >> as climate change threatens the world we leave to our children and good u.s. jobs move overseas, time in the senate ticks by. it keeps ticking by with no results. because the system is broken. but we can fix it. and make the senate work for us again. >> people are stunned when they find out it was not majority vote. that one senator can just stop the process. is it your hope and the hope of cwa that when you do ads like this that the public will put pressure on their senators to reform this and just make it fai
fiscal cliff, deficit, every single issue. the president's bills never go on the floor of the senate. there are bills that mcconnell agrees to before they reach the floor. because otherwise they can't proceed. one of these reforms that senator merkley talked about is just no more motion to proceed. the majority leader can put a bill on the floor. this is out of control. >> now, let me show you your union's advertising campaign against the filibuster. and let me just show you that first....
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the state of the union, on february 1 #* 12th, there's a deal about deficit reduction, and the ceiling. >> i hope you are right. he's had four years now to really put out there a serious entitlement reform, and he has not because he's not interested in it and the base is not interested in it. >> that will happen, that will happen. >> he gave no conclusion whatsoever if you read the speech, listen to the speech, it was all about the collectivism that thing z have to be done together, justifying the role of expansionist government, and there was no discussion at all about limiting government whatsoever so i hope he does what we're being told he's going to do, but i'm skeptical right now. >> in fact, he even said we got to pay more attention to climate change, tipped the hat, again, to the green energy program, listen to this. >> >> we will respond to the threat of climate change knowing that the failure to do so would betray our children and future generations. path towards sustainable energy sources will be long and sometimes difficult, but america cannot resist the transition, but we h
the state of the union, on february 1 #* 12th, there's a deal about deficit reduction, and the ceiling. >> i hope you are right. he's had four years now to really put out there a serious entitlement reform, and he has not because he's not interested in it and the base is not interested in it. >> that will happen, that will happen. >> he gave no conclusion whatsoever if you read the speech, listen to the speech, it was all about the collectivism that thing z have to be done...
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it doesn't create new deficit spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family that's trying to improve its credit rating. families that say, i know how we can save money, we won't pay her credit card bills. it was the sole solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 in the u.s. downgraded last time. so all these issues are important and it's very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where government doesn't pay its bills. >> a number of people have expressed concern about how much of the challenges actually were addressed in a deal, it certainly went part way, but leaves a number of issues still on the table. would you care to raise that as an additional fiscal cliff that is facing us? would you think that it's not as concerning as it was when you raise that term initially? >> as i said the fiscal cliff, if it is allowed to take place, it probably would have traded a recession this year. a good bit of that has been addressed. nevertheless, we stil
it doesn't create new deficit spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family that's trying to improve its credit rating. families that say, i know how we can save money, we won't pay her credit card bills. it was the sole solution to the debt ceiling in august of 2011 in the u.s. downgraded last time. so all these issues are important and it's very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where government doesn't pay its...
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the deficit is much greater. when i think of the ways and means committee, would change their has been in the composition. the ranking member at a time when i started went to the world bank. i worked with bill on trade. he was handling the tax material mainly. and bill was working on health care at the time. i think a second major change is very much effective today and affects us today. it is this change in composition of the republican party. i think it has moved very much more to the right. i think that makes it very difficult to handle the problems that we have before us. let me comment briefly on where we are. you offer the president yesterday. we have had spending cuts of a trillion and a half dollars. it comes from the budget control act. we have a trillion and a half of spending cuts. essentially in terms of deficit reduction, and has over 600 billion. the account interest, we have essentially of a deficit reduction of $2.5 trillion. the president set a goal of an additional $1 trillion in deficit reducti
the deficit is much greater. when i think of the ways and means committee, would change their has been in the composition. the ranking member at a time when i started went to the world bank. i worked with bill on trade. he was handling the tax material mainly. and bill was working on health care at the time. i think a second major change is very much effective today and affects us today. it is this change in composition of the republican party. i think it has moved very much more to the right....
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on one issue. 21% say that most important problem facings country was the economy. 21%. 20% said the deficit. 20%. 18% said dissatisfaction with the government overall. that number seemed low to me by the way. 16% said the greatest problem is unemployment that number colates closely to those unemployed, including those who have given up looking for work. 5% said just the lack of money is the number one problem. as they see it by the way, 4%, 4%, said gun control. this is where you are mr. president. this is where you are. and it appears president obama is being reckless with at 4r50e69 two oat leastthose issue remain out of work. two press briefings on gun control, well, let's see what ppens. >> the gun control debate, the empireious president set to rule. >> liberal mainstream media outraged about a newra shooting app, we'll show you the game they should really be worried about. we wonder why are they ignoring it? is the obama administration now secretly planning amnesty for 11 million illegal immigrants in the country. will republicans go along with the plan? immigration attorney, cardenas
on one issue. 21% say that most important problem facings country was the economy. 21%. 20% said the deficit. 20%. 18% said dissatisfaction with the government overall. that number seemed low to me by the way. 16% said the greatest problem is unemployment that number colates closely to those unemployed, including those who have given up looking for work. 5% said just the lack of money is the number one problem. as they see it by the way, 4%, 4%, said gun control. this is where you are mr....
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. >> critics say california would still have a deficit. >> if making payments we needed to pay for benefits, we'd be $9 billion in the hole. so the only way you can show we're not is by ignoring he's obligation autos the brown administration says ate dresses problems just not as fast as critics with like because there is only so much money and the state has more pressing needs. >> we're paying it down on a schedule basis, holding a line on spending. and we believe we've got a proven road map. >> the analyst has concerns about how schools are being given money that is an initiative to make campuses more energy efficient. being counted as part of per pupil spending. >> we've raised concerns over whether it meets language of prop 39. >> both agree that state budget could be turned upside down as soon as next n month if california receives less money from feds as a result of the negotiations in washington, d.c.. live in sacramento abc 7 news. >> thank you. >> former president bush left the hospital in texas today after bet battling illness. brompk kitis related cough sent hem to the hospital on
. >> critics say california would still have a deficit. >> if making payments we needed to pay for benefits, we'd be $9 billion in the hole. so the only way you can show we're not is by ignoring he's obligation autos the brown administration says ate dresses problems just not as fast as critics with like because there is only so much money and the state has more pressing needs. >> we're paying it down on a schedule basis, holding a line on spending. and we believe we've got a...
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account deficits. these are the things that really matter. and they're just kind of big macros. so they divide them down to a single session or a quick abrupt move. but they're the real flows in the global economy that are going to matter going forward. >> yeah, all right. i'm staying long. i'm staying long, kevin. >> well, we think last year we gave it a bite on the cheek. but that's going to be a lot harder this year, joe. and one of the things you're pointing out are extremely high gdp. and so the big thing this year is to make the switch. the customers are now the employees. the employees are the future customers. so you've got to keep the growth and accelerate the growth in employment over the 1.25/1.50 that we're doing if we're going to keep the equity market going in the direction that it has been for the past two years. >> all right, kevin ferry. thank you. >> is that a phone ringing down there, kevin? >> yeah. someone is trying to get to their broker. >> it would ring and ring and ring. >> tha
account deficits. these are the things that really matter. and they're just kind of big macros. so they divide them down to a single session or a quick abrupt move. but they're the real flows in the global economy that are going to matter going forward. >> yeah, all right. i'm staying long. i'm staying long, kevin. >> well, we think last year we gave it a bite on the cheek. but that's going to be a lot harder this year, joe. and one of the things you're pointing out are extremely...
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it doesn't create new deficits. it does not create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family, which is trying to improve its credit rating, shane, i know how we can improve our credit rating. we will pay your credit card bills. that is not the best way to improve your credit rating. all of these issues are important, but it is very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where our government does not pay its bills. >> and number of people have expressed concern about how much of the chill news were addressed in the deal. it went part way, but it leaves a number of issues still on the table and negotiations are looming. would you characterize that as an additional cliff that is facing us? or is it not as concerned as it was when you raised that term initially? >> as i said, the fiscal kloof, if allowed -- the fiscal clef, if allowed to take place, would probably create a recession this year. a good part of that has been addressed. but nevertheless, we have a set of a r
it doesn't create new deficits. it does not create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family, which is trying to improve its credit rating, shane, i know how we can improve our credit rating. we will pay your credit card bills. that is not the best way to improve your credit rating. all of these issues are important, but it is very important that congress take necessary action to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a situation where our government does not pay its...
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spencer michels asks california governor jerry brown if his fiscal turnaround-- from a $27 billion deficit to a balanced budget-- offers a lesson for the nation. . >> you have to make tough choices. you have to live within your means. that means you have to not do everything you want to but you also have to raise more
spencer michels asks california governor jerry brown if his fiscal turnaround-- from a $27 billion deficit to a balanced budget-- offers a lesson for the nation. . >> you have to make tough choices. you have to live within your means. that means you have to not do everything you want to but you also have to raise more
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we do this by cutting spending, shrinking the deficit and balancing the budget. you know, as a businessman, when you're not selling your product, you don't raise taxes. i.e. -- and you don't raise prices. you cut spending. that's where the money is. that's where the cash flow is. and that's what we've got to get to. our nation's economic future is at stake. the federal government current liborios more than 40 cents of every $1 spent. i think we will we all agree it's time to get our fiscal house in order. across this great nation, the families have stretched their hard-earned dollars in order to make it through this struggling economy. the federal government must do the same and must do it now. we're facing a crisis because washington just simply spends too much and wastes too much. as i said, again, families all across this i country, they're not looking to spend more money, they're looking to cut expenses, to meet the problems we all face today. the american people i believe do not support raising the debt. i ran on lower taxes, less government, cut the spendin
we do this by cutting spending, shrinking the deficit and balancing the budget. you know, as a businessman, when you're not selling your product, you don't raise taxes. i.e. -- and you don't raise prices. you cut spending. that's where the money is. that's where the cash flow is. and that's what we've got to get to. our nation's economic future is at stake. the federal government current liborios more than 40 cents of every $1 spent. i think we will we all agree it's time to get our fiscal...
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we have an education deficit. we have skill development deficits closely related to education. we have an infrastructure development and repair deficit of e mori nows -- enormously important pace of proportions, and look at other countries from the recession and countries with very different political systems than ours to see the close relationship that infrastructure investment and development have on the likelihood and pace of recovery from a severe, global downturn. we also have, if not a deficit, an important urgent need to address the issue of energy and independence and opportunity that's sitting right in front of us ready to be advanced in the next year or two, but that requires leadership and initiative in washington and immigration reform, again, the subject that was discussed before. one more word, finally, about the process. for this, i go back to an earlier part of my life as a professor of law and one of the subjects i taught every year was negotiation. negotiation of a variety of contacts from international to commercial and transactional to labor management dispu
we have an education deficit. we have skill development deficits closely related to education. we have an infrastructure development and repair deficit of e mori nows -- enormously important pace of proportions, and look at other countries from the recession and countries with very different political systems than ours to see the close relationship that infrastructure investment and development have on the likelihood and pace of recovery from a severe, global downturn. we also have, if not a...
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that ate up a good decade, not to mention adding to the defic deficit. then we had a gargantuan recession and fiscal crisis. so we now are maybe getting a little bit back to normal, people are looking at this structure and the legacy of the last two decades, which is enormous deficits and saying okay, what do we do about this going forward? and that's were i think we get the potential for change. >> ron williams on the iowa has a question. >> the question is really based on -- what you learn business is once an organization is created, once it lives it wants to grow. and that organizations also have a way of becoming their own customer. ending this is it just doesn't work because there's no revenue in being your own customer. so the question really is a sidestep question which is, what happens if we can develop ways to sunset organizations, regulations that would require a review of the original problem which is often a very legitimate problem, doesn't still exist, does it require the same solution. the second question or comment is around risk, and i'm
that ate up a good decade, not to mention adding to the defic deficit. then we had a gargantuan recession and fiscal crisis. so we now are maybe getting a little bit back to normal, people are looking at this structure and the legacy of the last two decades, which is enormous deficits and saying okay, what do we do about this going forward? and that's were i think we get the potential for change. >> ron williams on the iowa has a question. >> the question is really based on -- what...
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we have had trialion dollar deficits every year. nobody would expect to be paid if they didn't do their job. no budget, no pay. if harry reid cannot pass a budget, they are fundamentally moving the responsibility why they should even be in the majority. to me, this is a turning point for this country, getting to the fundamentals of a planning for the future that this could be the mark of a great american comeback. >> good evening. yesterday, the president was inaugurated and he took a similar -- he took an oath of office that is very similar to the one that we take as members of congress, to uphold the constitution and to protect this country. and it starts with getting a budget in place. that is pretty fundamental to governing and the federal government is operating right now with a continuing resolution. and we need a budget in place. we need a senate to pass the budget. it's going on four years since the senate has passed the budget. the senate has said his budget is going to be delayed. america, families understand they need to
we have had trialion dollar deficits every year. nobody would expect to be paid if they didn't do their job. no budget, no pay. if harry reid cannot pass a budget, they are fundamentally moving the responsibility why they should even be in the majority. to me, this is a turning point for this country, getting to the fundamentals of a planning for the future that this could be the mark of a great american comeback. >> good evening. yesterday, the president was inaugurated and he took a...
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we didn't have a deficit and debt crisis the way we do right now. let's be fair about the facts. we are in a debt crisis. however, when something like this happens, it's an exception to the rule. these people are hurting. they need the help of the federal government, and that's what we're going to deliver today. the bottom line is we're going to move forward and get this done. >> you know, i have been blessed to get to know some of the really good people up in your borough like teddy atlas and your borough president. they're doing great work. tell us how bad it is. we're looking at pictures of the people under water during the flood. have just been devastated. i saw some of that stuff on your own island of staten island a couple weeks ago, it was really rough. >> it's horrendous. this is a war zone. let me be clear, don't forget about -- you see homes crushed. you see people's personal belongings wiped out to sea, but there's also emotional scars that you cannot see. just this past weekend i had a mother tell me her children are deathly afraid when it rains because they think the
we didn't have a deficit and debt crisis the way we do right now. let's be fair about the facts. we are in a debt crisis. however, when something like this happens, it's an exception to the rule. these people are hurting. they need the help of the federal government, and that's what we're going to deliver today. the bottom line is we're going to move forward and get this done. >> you know, i have been blessed to get to know some of the really good people up in your borough like teddy...
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the deficit. so it shouldn't be surprising, given all this talk, that the american people think washington is hurting, rather than helping, the country at the moment. they see their representatives consumed with partisan brinksmanship over paying our bills, while they overwhelmingly want us to focus on growing the economy and creating more jobs. so let's finish this debate. let's give our businesses and the world the certainty that our economy and our reputation are still second to none. we pay our bills. we handle our business. and then we can move on -- because america has a lot to do. we've got to create more jobs. ofve got to boost the wages those who have work. we've got to reach for energy independence. we've got to reform our immigration system. we've got to give our children the best education possible, and we've got to do everything we can to protect them from the horrors of gun violence. and let me say i'm grateful to vice president biden for his work on this issue of gun violence and fo
the deficit. so it shouldn't be surprising, given all this talk, that the american people think washington is hurting, rather than helping, the country at the moment. they see their representatives consumed with partisan brinksmanship over paying our bills, while they overwhelmingly want us to focus on growing the economy and creating more jobs. so let's finish this debate. let's give our businesses and the world the certainty that our economy and our reputation are still second to none. we pay...
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they created the structural deficit -- >> neil: wait a minute. we can go back in time and talk about 9/11 and a recession was taking hold. i don't want to go back in history. i want to ask thufinaly, would you agree that if we get a republican president and he or she is demanding the same prerogative you want to give this president right now, you, simon, would be on board and say go for it. >> i think we should eliminate the vote over the debt ceiling, both party, both presidents for all time -- >> neil: you would give a republican the same eye am going to save this tape. when it comes to that, i am going to have you back. >> hopefully, that won't be for a long time. >> neil: i thought you would say that, touche. >> okay. >> neil: from help out of d.c. to big doings in d.c., the city is getting readyr spiffy for a piece of history. the president's inauguration on monday. since january 20 falls on a sunday, the president will be privately sworn in that day. but the hoopla is all on monday, across the capitol. and we will be there again. probably n
they created the structural deficit -- >> neil: wait a minute. we can go back in time and talk about 9/11 and a recession was taking hold. i don't want to go back in history. i want to ask thufinaly, would you agree that if we get a republican president and he or she is demanding the same prerogative you want to give this president right now, you, simon, would be on board and say go for it. >> i think we should eliminate the vote over the debt ceiling, both party, both presidents...
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because when interest rates go up, that means the deficit will go up. so we make the problem worse by taking this route if we go down this pathway. >> i want to throw three terms at you that we've had to stomach out in america. debate over the fiscal cliff, the debate over the debt ceiling and the budget show dunn. all three of these very serious. but which is the most serious. >> the debt ceiling could do damage to our countries for decades to come if we hit it and don't expect the problem. this is the most dangerous thing. this is almost a nuclear option. this is really playing with very dangerous things. and one little mistake could be devastating to our country. >> and yet you still come on day after day and smile with me. thank you. always good to see you. >>> by the way, i just want to remind you if you're doing the math, the treasury says it might come up short in its payments as soon as february 15th. ♪ [ male announcer ] some day, your life will flash before your eyes. make it worth watching. introducing the 2013 lexus ls. an entirely new pur
because when interest rates go up, that means the deficit will go up. so we make the problem worse by taking this route if we go down this pathway. >> i want to throw three terms at you that we've had to stomach out in america. debate over the fiscal cliff, the debate over the debt ceiling and the budget show dunn. all three of these very serious. but which is the most serious. >> the debt ceiling could do damage to our countries for decades to come if we hit it and don't expect the...
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] [applause] [applause] >> former senators kent conrad and judd gregg lead a discussion on debt and deficit issues like it 8:30 a.m. here on c-span 2. at 1:00 p.m. eastern, new immigration legislation, live from the national press club on c-span 2. >> why did you write a book about your experience? >> it was an important part of history. i felt the fdic perspective should be brought to bear. there had been some other accounts of the crisis that i thought were not completely accurate, especially in terms of what we did and what i did so with the was important for a historical record to present our perspective and also, currently, for people to understand that there were different policy choices, a different policy options and disagreements and that if we want to prevent this crisis from happening again, i really felt the public themselves need to engage more in financial reform and educate themselves better and make it an issue with their elected officials. i wanted to make the book accessible and i had recommendations to help them do that. >> the former head of the federal deposit insurance
] [applause] [applause] >> former senators kent conrad and judd gregg lead a discussion on debt and deficit issues like it 8:30 a.m. here on c-span 2. at 1:00 p.m. eastern, new immigration legislation, live from the national press club on c-span 2. >> why did you write a book about your experience? >> it was an important part of history. i felt the fdic perspective should be brought to bear. there had been some other accounts of the crisis that i thought were not completely...
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and i remembered some of the earlier deficit reduction battles we had. i voted for virtually all of them. and i was thinking what is changed since those debates? and i think there have been two major changes. number one the deficit is clearly much greater, and that's an added dimension. but secondly, the -- when i think of the ways & means committee, what a change there's been in the competition. when i joined ways & means, barbara had just left the ranking member, and he then went the world bank. i worked with bill frenzel on trade. bill archer was handling the tax material, mainly and bill was working on health care. i think a second major change that effects the debate is changing composition of the republican party. i think it has moved very much more to the right describe it from the days when i joined the committee. and i think that makes it very much more difficult to handle the problems that we have before us. so let me just comment briefly on where we are. you heard the president yesterday. we've had spending cuts of a billion and a half or tril
and i remembered some of the earlier deficit reduction battles we had. i voted for virtually all of them. and i was thinking what is changed since those debates? and i think there have been two major changes. number one the deficit is clearly much greater, and that's an added dimension. but secondly, the -- when i think of the ways & means committee, what a change there's been in the competition. when i joined ways & means, barbara had just left the ranking member, and he then went the...
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impact of extended deficit financing. the longer term problem is to a very large extent the product of the key entitlement programs that are in a part of part of the nation's safety net for the elderly. slowing the growth of spending in the nation's in title at program can help make these programs secure for current and future workers and we think that's very important. by 2035, there will be only two workers per beneficiary and a typical 65-year-old retiree would have about a 50% longer retirement than had occurred in 1995. this is a very serious issue. currently the social security retirement is a pay-as-you-go system that provides more annual benefits than the payroll tax collectors. if left alone, this eventually will lead to insolvency particularly with the rapidly increasing number of baby boomers retire in every day as was referred to by maya and louis. there isn't time today nor do i have the proven expertise to suggest specific solutions it's important that the contras and the administration analyze acceptable me
impact of extended deficit financing. the longer term problem is to a very large extent the product of the key entitlement programs that are in a part of part of the nation's safety net for the elderly. slowing the growth of spending in the nation's in title at program can help make these programs secure for current and future workers and we think that's very important. by 2035, there will be only two workers per beneficiary and a typical 65-year-old retiree would have about a 50% longer...
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we are leaving our kids and grand kids with these incredible burdens of debt and deficit unless we reform these important programs. >> small talk over an all american inaugural luncheon of lobster, bison and arm pie showed the two parties are capable of expressing goodwill in hopes of bipartisanship. >> i think there are areas that we have in common and can work toward solutions together. >>> after day of celebration dan pheiffer telling "washington post" republicans may not be up to the task. the cbs news political director said quote go for the throat. why obama must declare war about the republican party. >> especially that coming from a news otherzation. >> we are getting a lot of reaction coming in. folks are criticizing president obama for putting social issues before the economy. the economy some argue is not one of his priorities. >> if you look back in 2008 the median household income 52,546 dollars. three years into president obama's presidency the average for 2011 it dropped more than 2,000 dollars to 50,054. when you look at the numbers do you think the president should be mor
we are leaving our kids and grand kids with these incredible burdens of debt and deficit unless we reform these important programs. >> small talk over an all american inaugural luncheon of lobster, bison and arm pie showed the two parties are capable of expressing goodwill in hopes of bipartisanship. >> i think there are areas that we have in common and can work toward solutions together. >>> after day of celebration dan pheiffer telling "washington post"...
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he's the cow author of controversial simpson/bowles deficit reduction plan. find out what he has to say now as we're edging closer and closer to that debt ceiling. >>> later, no way to get to work equals no job. a new study shows 3.5 million jobs will be lost if we don't start rebuilding america's infrastructure, today. we'll debate the high-stakes issue affecting all of us in the back half of the program. don't miss it. back in a moment. what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to this. [ male announ
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about the deficit. come on. what? oh, crap. >> stephanie: the only way to fix that is to destroy social security. >> yes. [ explosion ] >> stephanie: it just kills you, because you remember what a great idea it was the public option. >> that's right. >> how many european countries have opted for the american system? oh zero. >> stephanie: that's right. kids, rowland just put 20 seats on sale. oh it's his birthday. it's -- sexy is the code word. it's up on sexy liberal twitter, sexy liberal facebook and we will see you tomorrow before we fly to d.c. we'll see you tomorrow on the "stephanie miller show." ♪
about the deficit. come on. what? oh, crap. >> stephanie: the only way to fix that is to destroy social security. >> yes. [ explosion ] >> stephanie: it just kills you, because you remember what a great idea it was the public option. >> that's right. >> how many european countries have opted for the american system? oh zero. >> stephanie: that's right. kids, rowland just put 20 seats on sale. oh it's his birthday. it's -- sexy is the code word. it's up on...
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we are racking up trillion- dollar deficits. this is not a republican against democrat thing. it's a math thing. this debt crisis is coming because of the debt that is piling up. all of the independent fiscal authorities tell us this. the rating agencies downgrade us because they think our political system is broken at an impasse. therefore, no solution is occurring. and our argument is the way to break that impasse is to start budgeting. the law says we should budget. we should follow the law. we have disagreements on how to budget. but at least we ought to come to the table with each of our individuals and our plans. if you're ever going to get to a solution, what usually happens under what we call regular order is we pass our budget vision, the other side passes their budget vision, and then we bring ideas to the table and we start negotiating. that hasn't happened for four years because the senate has chosen not to even begin this process. and so we think we are advancing the goal of restoring fiscal discipline to our federal government by just getting congress, the house
we are racking up trillion- dollar deficits. this is not a republican against democrat thing. it's a math thing. this debt crisis is coming because of the debt that is piling up. all of the independent fiscal authorities tell us this. the rating agencies downgrade us because they think our political system is broken at an impasse. therefore, no solution is occurring. and our argument is the way to break that impasse is to start budgeting. the law says we should budget. we should follow the law....
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it will be over debt, deficit, gun control immigration reform leading the organization will be jim macina who will take over the cash of 5.3 million and use it for discreet coalition of the policy battles. it is the most sophisticated in modern times in the use of multi targeting data. vice president giend who hazel lewded to a presidential run of his own spoke about a grass-roots approach in his announcement yesterday as conference as mayor. >> we are going to take this fight to the halls of congress. we are going to take it beyond that. we are going to go to the country making our case and let the voices, the voice of american people to be heard. >> it will be separate from the democratic national committee. the white house dmc chair debbie watson schultz. describes her as an obama outsider who never enjoyed a close relationship with the president. >> isn't that the question you would love to be asked what are you going to do with the leftover 5.3 million? >> i don't anticipate that in my life. >> a too bad hopefully you share the wealth. >> dumped several inches of snow but it claimed
it will be over debt, deficit, gun control immigration reform leading the organization will be jim macina who will take over the cash of 5.3 million and use it for discreet coalition of the policy battles. it is the most sophisticated in modern times in the use of multi targeting data. vice president giend who hazel lewded to a presidential run of his own spoke about a grass-roots approach in his announcement yesterday as conference as mayor. >> we are going to take this fight to the...
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the budget deficit is the economy right now. that's the to 50 minute like that but that's the truth. i think it would be great if an organization with strength and integrity of a or b. would stand up and make the point because we're having an entire budget that is basically premised on something that is not true. >> i agree with you. we do have underlying pieces of our economy that need to get fixed. but massive change in spending and we've already cut a trillion dollars over all in spending. we've cut medicare as part of the political their act. we have to be really careful and just solving these problems by cutting spending. .. >> we do it in a way that supports families and the population that we have. >> let me just add to that. i agree with you, but unfortunately, most of the people on social security will be on fixed budgets. and so there's still a danger having out-of-pocket costs run away unless we do something about the costs of health care and the health care system, as an example. so although we agree, there's still -
the budget deficit is the economy right now. that's the to 50 minute like that but that's the truth. i think it would be great if an organization with strength and integrity of a or b. would stand up and make the point because we're having an entire budget that is basically premised on something that is not true. >> i agree with you. we do have underlying pieces of our economy that need to get fixed. but massive change in spending and we've already cut a trillion dollars over all in...
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you're going to need more revenues as well as more cuts to get the deficit down. and i've talked to leader reid. i've talked to budget chair murray. we're going to do a budget this year. and it's going to have revenues in it. and our republican colleagues better get used to that fact. >> senator cruz? >> david, i'll mention there was an area of substantial agreement with what chuck just said. he said we should never, ever compromise the full faith and credit of the united states. i agree. and in fact, there is a bill that i am co-sponsoring, the full faith and credit act, which provides that, regardless of what happens to the debt ceiling, the united states will always, always, always meet its debt. we will never default on its debt. that was introduced in 2010. it didn't pass because harry reid and president obama didn't want it to pass. they wanted to raise the specter of a default to use. so, chuck, you and i could make news right now on national television, would you agree to support the full faith and credit act and take the possibility of a default off the t
you're going to need more revenues as well as more cuts to get the deficit down. and i've talked to leader reid. i've talked to budget chair murray. we're going to do a budget this year. and it's going to have revenues in it. and our republican colleagues better get used to that fact. >> senator cruz? >> david, i'll mention there was an area of substantial agreement with what chuck just said. he said we should never, ever compromise the full faith and credit of the united states. i...
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that's the smallest monthly deficit in five years. some of that is artificial. people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this problem after a while. do you think we're headed for a full stalemate? >> it's such a shame. i think david is right because we have low debt service right now. we're paying less interest on our debt than we had in the reagan and bush administrations before because interest rates are so low. >> but they're going to go up one day. >> but not for several years. i'll say it, we should be borrowing more at 30-year, 3% terms, so we can invest in the long-term growth of this economy. this is not the time for further austerity and cuts. if we were even to consider that right now, it would be
that's the smallest monthly deficit in five years. some of that is artificial. people pulling transactions forward because they were afraid of higher tax rates in 2013. but for the first three months of 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking fiscal 2013, we have a rapidly shrinking deficit. so we are in a way chasing a vanishing problem. >> which is interesting, and that would allow for some things that are dirty and things that are not so dirty, would completely perhaps get rid of this...